Preventing Moisture Lost

I have created a good formula for liquid to matte lipstick, however it is super drying on the lips and can be kind of chalky. Would maybe adding more vitamin E or oils prevent that? Or should I add dimethicone to prevent so much moisture lost. I am using Cyclopentasiloxane and Dimethicone/Vinyl Dimethicone Crosspolymer, however I have dimethicone alone also. Should I add some? Or just increase my oils or add more of the crosspolymer? I want it to stay matte like it is. It doesnt budge a bit its just too dry.   


  • edited July 2015
    FYI... I'm not sure why but all your threads come in triplets.

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  • BobzchemistBobzchemist Member, PCF student
    If you don't already know how to formulate colored lip products, you will save yourself massive amounts of time, and probably quite a bit of money, by either using a pre-made base, or consulting with an expert. Otherwise, you can go round and round with a formula for months - a fix for one problem will cause another problem, and then a fix for the second problem will cause a third, and so on, and so on.

    @AuroraBorealis also makes a very good point. Most of the people who are good at formulating are not that good at marketing and sales, and vice-versa. That's primarily because doing either job well takes a great deal of focus and learning, and the skillsets are very different.

    Here, we are a community of folks who are more focused on formulations, and the science behind them. If that is the way you want to go, I will happily guide you along the way, and show you where to go to get the information you'll need to solve this problem, and many problems like this in the future. But if you just want to get this one problem fixed, and then be done with formulating, learning that much is not an efficient use of your time.

    From your questions, it really does sound like you're focused on the idea that if you can just fix this one little problem, you can go out and sell your lipsticks.I would strongly suggest that if your talents run towards sales, that you get someone else to work on your formulation. I know that your problem is bigger than you think it is - and I've spent years working on lip products full time.
    Robert Zonis, Sr. Formulation Chemist, Beaumont Products "All opinions and comments expressed are my own, have no relation to Beaumont Products, are fully copyrighted, and may not be used without written permission."
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