Thickening glucosides

Does anyone have any ideas on thickening surfactant systems containing alkyl polygluscosides as the primary surfactant?

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  • BelassiBelassi Member, PCF student
    Depends how much you want to spend.
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  • @Belassi would you mind enlightening us with a quick review of the thickening options available, please?
  • BelassiBelassi Member, PCF student
    Well, at the cheap end you've got gums, which generally need predispersing and can be used in cold process. Then there's things like PEG-150 distearate or MEA which are hot process. At the expensive end of the market there are other thickeners such as Glucamate LT or VLT which can be cold process. The cheap ones have limitations.
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  • GuntherGunther Member
    edited June 2018
    Have you tried Oxiteno products? They're supposed to be widely available in Mexico and inexpensive. I believe they even have a factory there. Oxiteno' Alkont EL 3645 worked fine for me for thickening low sulfate + glucosides formulations.
  • BelassiBelassi Member, PCF student
    Thank you Gunther for that very interesting piece of information. I had not heard of them.
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  • BelassiBelassi Member, PCF student
    In fact they have a distributor in my city! :)
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  • MarkBroussardMarkBroussard Member, Professional Chemist
    @chemist1

    The Glucosides are notoriously difficult to thicken ... they seem to not respond to anything other than Gums.  But, if you throw in some Sodium Cocoyl Methyl Taurate, Sodium Cocoamphoacetate and Antil HS 60 (Cocamidopropyl Betaine + Glyceryl Laurate) you can get some decent viscosity out of a Glucosides formula.
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  • svensven Member
    @MarkBroussard would 5:5:20 surfactant mix work with HS60 being 20?
  • MarkBroussardMarkBroussard Member, Professional Chemist
    No, that's on the heavy side on the HS60 ... you would only need to add that at 4% to 5%.  Sodium Cocoamphoacetate @ 6%, Sodium Cocoyl Methyl Taurate 10% and the remained Glucosides
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