Sulphate free shampoo formula


I am working on this formula , the results is good but i am searching about something to be add increase softness and lubrication of the formula i am thinking of adding ( pq10 , plus pq7 ?!! ) , ( argan oil ? Is it will be dissolved without problems?! ) , ( silicon oil ? )

please advice 
Bahey

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  • BelassiBelassi Member, PCF student
    Softness? That would be Lamesoft PO65.
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  • Thanks @Belassi for your fast response 
    do you think that po65 will produce something different rather than pq7 and pq10 and all this ingredients?
  • What about Silicon oil ?
  • BelassiBelassi Member, PCF student
    Just try and see. That is how we improve.
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  • ngarayeva001ngarayeva001 Member
    edited January 2019
     Polyquat 10 is made of HEC, so keep in mind that it will thicken your formula. Looking at the ingredients I assume it's thick enough. My suggestion is: up polyquat 7 to 2% and add 0.5% of polyquat 10. Conditioners are great but you don't really want to add more than 2.5-3%. You can also add some watersoluble silicone (PEG-8 Dimethicone), watersoluble oils (PEG-50 shea butter) and if you still don't like it, increase CAPB and decrease other surfactants (but keep total active ingredients at 15%).
  • MicroformulationMicroformulation Member, Professional Chemist
    Belassi said:
    Just try and see. That is how we improve.
    I am glad someone pointed that out. There is no substitute for the hands-on lab work. "Will 3% SA dissolve in 10% PG?" DO the work and let me know.

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  • BelassiBelassi Member, PCF student
    If you want to try surfactants that are usually only available by the drum, you might be able to find a local factor who is willing to supply you 'on the coat tails' of a larger customer. I get one of my surfactants that way; it's an Akypo product. I buy 5 gallons at a time, I guess that might be a bit much for someone wanting experimental quantities. BASF surfactants are usually available, as are Stepan. Try the Plantaren range, they have some very easy to use blends as well as quite a few different types of surfactant. Try Dehyton AB 30 instead of bog standard CAPB. 
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  •  Polyquat 10 is made of HEC, so keep in mind that it will thicken your formula. Looking at the ingredients I assume it's thick enough. My suggestion is: up polyquat 7 to 2% and add 0.5% of polyquat 10. Conditioners are great but you don't really want to add more than 2.5-3%. You can also add some watersoluble silicone (PEG-8 Dimethicone), watersoluble oils (PEG-50 shea butter) and if you still don't like it, increase CAPB and decrease other surfactants (but keep total active ingredients at 15%).


    many thanks dear for all beautiful tips
  • Belassi said:
    If you want to try surfactants that are usually only available by the drum, you might be able to find a local factor who is willing to supply you 'on the coat tails' of a larger customer. I get one of my surfactants that way; it's an Akypo product. I buy 5 gallons at a time, I guess that might be a bit much for someone wanting experimental quantities. BASF surfactants are usually available, as are Stepan. Try the Plantaren range, they have some very easy to use blends as well as quite a few different types of surfactant. Try Dehyton AB 30 instead of bog standard CAPB. 

    Thanks Belassi i will consider your opinion
  • i had made the formula !
    the result was perfect !
    i have added hydrogenated multi-vitamins oils ( water soluble )  and small amount of water soluble silicon (doubt about is effect )

    many thanks for your advises
    to be continued
  • About pq-10 ?!
    i will add .5 % from post-mixing ( solution of powder and water ) or 0.5 from powder before dissolved in water ??!
  • I have added Pritarol

    (HYDROGENATED WHEAT GERM OIL)

    The results: no big difference ?
    i am searching about something gives an oily texture to the shampoo 
  • How i dissolve silicon oil into shampoo ??!
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