sodium surfactin. yes or no

margimargi Member
edited August 2019 in Hair
Would you say that fss sodium surfactin is a good main surfactant for a vegan shampoo?

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  • I am not aware of any surfactants (except for soaps like sodium tallowate) that are not vegan.
  • PerryPerry Administrator, Professional Chemist
    Probably not.

    Are there any products on the market using Sodium Surfactin as a main surfactant?  I didn't see any. 

    There is very little information available about sodium surfactin, but what is available says it's only a secondary surfactant used at levels under 1%. 
    https://www.brenntag.com/media/documents/bsi/product_data_sheets/life_science/kaneka/kaneka_surfactin_brochure.pdf
  • https://onlybio.eu.com/en/produkty/shampoo-for-kids/
    cant seem to find any at the moment but i found this one. 

    im kind of struggeling to find a good main surfactant. any sugestions?
  • PerryPerry Administrator, Professional Chemist
    edited August 2019
    The ingredients in that formula are...

    INCI: Aqua, Coco-Glucoside, Sodium Coco-Sulfate, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Glycerin, Disodium Cocoyl Glutamate, Sodium Cocoyl Glutamate, Sodium Surfactin, Helianthus Annuus (Sunflower) Seed Oil, Glyceryl Oleate, Hydrogenated Palm Glycerides Citrate, Sodium Chloride, Citric Acid, Tocopherol, Potassium Sorbate, Sodium Benzoate, Parfum.

    The ingredients that make this product work are Coco Glucoside, Sodium Coco-Sulfate and the Cocamidopropyl Betaine. 

    Sodium Surfactin isn't doing much of anything in that formula. It's probably in there at a tiny percentage (e.g. 0.2%)

    A "good" main surfactant is Sodium Lauryl Sulfate (SLS) or Sodium Laureth Sulfate (SLES).  Both of these are vegan.  An adequate main surfactant might be Decyl Glucoside or Lauryl Glucoside. But Sodium Lauryl Sarcosinate, Sodium Lauryl Taurate could also work. They don't work as well but might fit better with a "sulfate free" marketing position. 

    But from a functionality standpoint, the "good" surfactants for shampoo are SLS and SLES (or ALS and ALES). 
  • thank you :smiley:

    apprichiate it 
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